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=Bureaucratic details= | =Bureaucratic details= | ||
* Name: Primary | * Name: Primary | ||
* Action: New | * Action: New | ||
* Already Registered Name? | * Already Registered Name? no | ||
* Authenticity desired? | * Authenticity desired? no | ||
* Allowed Changes: | * Allowed Changes: Minor only | ||
* If changes needed: | * If changes needed: Meaning (morning star), Sound ("Zahr-yah" "Gor-GOHN-ee-yah") | ||
* Allow Holding Name? | * Allow Holding Name? yes | ||
* Gender of Name | * Gender of Name: Female | ||
* Previous submission history, | * Previous submission history, none | ||
* Kingdom? | * Kingdom? East | ||
=Name Inspiration= | =Name Inspiration= | ||
* Zarya - Russian/Romani | * Zarya - Russian/Romani | ||
*registered as Zariia Gorgonii (as masculine name) | |||
==Given Name== | ==Given Name== | ||
* Zarya - Slavic given name using alternate Revised English transliteration system, sn Zaria (m) -- Zakharii Zaria. 1618. [Tup 158] Vars: Zara Owanowich. 1648. [Mor 88]. Wickenden 2nd edition. | * Zarya - plausible feminine Slavic given name using alternate Revised English transliteration system, sn Zaria (m) -- Zakharii Zaria. 1618. [Tup 158] Vars: Zara Owanowich. 1648. [Mor 88]. Wickenden 2nd edition. | ||
* Documentation of feminine/masculine names sharing grammatically feminine endings (all per Wickenden): Belka (squirrel), Groza (terror), Kasha (porridge), Mira (peace/earth), Nedelia (week), etc. | |||
* Should have said: Pattern of feminine personal names using unmodified grammatically feminine Russian nouns, bracketing examples x 6... | |||
===Notes:=== | ===Notes:=== | ||
Zaria is the name of the pagan Russian goddess of the dawn, depicted in Russian folklore as a beautiful maiden. More importantly to the heralds (since we can't register names that were only used by gods), it is documented as a man's (!) name in Wickenden as Zaria and Zara. So convincing the Heralds to register it as a woman's name might be tricky, despite the fact it is grammatically feminine and the name of a female goddess. But I have developed a couple strategies for this problem. | Zaria is the name of the pagan Russian goddess of the dawn, depicted in Russian folklore as a beautiful maiden. More importantly to the heralds (since we can't register names that were only used by gods), it is documented as a man's (!) name in Wickenden as Zaria and Zara. So convincing the Heralds to register it as a woman's name might be tricky, despite the fact it is grammatically feminine and the name of a female goddess. But I have developed a couple strategies for this problem. | ||
Interestingly, the word zaryanka (robin) is related to zarya according to Dal'... Wickenden documents Zaranko as a men's name (diminutive of Zaran)... I should be able to document a/ia switches, plus the well-established o/a switches... | Interestingly, the word zaryanka (robin) is related to zarya according to Dal'... Wickenden documents Zaranko as a men's name (diminutive of Zaran)... I should be able to document a/ia switches, plus the well-established o/a switches... | ||
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==Byname/Surname== | ==Byname/Surname== | ||
Gorgoniia - expected feminine form of Russian saint's name Gorgonii, sn. Gorgonii (m) -- Gorgonii, martyr. 4th Century. from Wickenden. | |||
Documentation of feminization pattern (all per Wickenden): Artemii -> Artemiia, Evgenii -> Evgeniia, Evsignii -> Evsigniia, etc. | |||
{| class=wikitable | |||
|| Russian words: || Russian names | |||
|- | |||
|| Горгона, Медуза || '''Gorgonij''' (martyr), | |||
|- | |||
|| Амазонка, валькирия|| - , - | |||
|- | |||
|| урод, чудовище, изберг || Urod (ugly), Groza/Groznata (terror/awe), '''Groznye Ochi''' (terrifying eyes) | |||
|- | |||
|| воин, боец, воитель, борец (warrior, fighter) || Boi, Boika, syn Boeva, Boiak, Borets, Borim, Boris, Borislav (glorious fight), Voin, '''Voina''' (fem.!), Voislava (war's glory), Voit, Vor (slay) | |||
|- | |||
|| змея || Zmei, Zmeika (snake) | |||
|- | |||
|| булава, жезл, молот, молоток || '''Bulava (mace), Bulavka (little mace)''', Zhez (?mace?), Molot (hammer), Molotko (little hammer), Moloteia | |||
|- | |||
|| ударять, бить, стучать, колотить, взбивать, вколачивать, прибивать (to hit) || Bitiag, Bitmut, Bitomir (strike earth), | |||
|- | |||
|| грек, гречанка, греческий || Grek, Grekyna/Grekina/Grekinia (fem.) | |||
|} | |||
==Combination== | ==Combination== | ||
*'' | Need to be consistent about Revised English vs Library of Congress transliterations systems. Either: | ||
* | * '''Zarya Gorgoniya''' OR | ||
* Zaria Gorgoniia | |||
Double given name combining Slavic name (Zarya) with Christian name (Gorgoniya) attested in SENA Appendix A. | |||
Gorgoniya, as a saints name, was a part of the Russian naming period throughout SCA period, so no temporal incompatibility issue with Zarya dated to grey period. Per precedent: "In the case of name elements in the Dictionary [Wickenden] derived from the names of saints and martyrs, we continue to apply the rule set out in the June 2013 Cover Letter. For names listed with only a very early date (3rd century, for example) and noted to be the name of a saint or martyr, the submitter can rely on the Saint's Name Allowance found in PN1B2d1 to register that element." [http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2017/07/17-07cl.html#3 July 2017 Cover Letter] | |||
=Blazon Information= | =Blazon Information= | ||
Armory: morning star (sun on a stick - as in the weapon! duh! aka "spiked mace") but also wanting to incorporate my house symbol which is a Gorgon head but possibly in profile | [[File:ZaryaBordureEyes.png|thumb|A morning star with terrible eyes!]] | ||
Armory: morning star (sun on a stick - as in the weapon! duh! aka "spiked mace") but also wanting to incorporate my house symbol which is a Gorgon head but possibly in profile, | |||
* Dark color: black - I will probably sweat to death and it will be so worth it | |||
* Light metal: yellow/gold - if we could make the mace in the metal so it stands out that would be awesome. | |||
* Red accents? Happy to play with red, or blue in there somewhere! | |||
Blazon Desired:'''Sable, a gorgon's head couped facing dexter Or and on a chief Or a morning star sable distilling gouttes de sange from snakes, tongue, neck and morning star." | |||
* Above returned because red drops didn't have sufficient contrast with the field. | |||
Options: | |||
* Get rid of the drops | |||
* Change the drops to white "gouttes d'eau" | |||
* Change the drops to yellow "gouttes d'or" | |||
Clip Art | |||
* Gunnvor gorgon head - https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/801666866275155988/811081288261697576/unknown.png?width=336&height=396 | |||
* Rough sketch - https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/801666866275155988/809918989747617812/unknown.png?width=369&height=397 | |||
* Malys's version - https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807846683060076554/808892742058770482/medusa-couped.png?width=303&height=397 | |||
* screaming - https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/024/059/396/large/chris-moffitt-medusa01.jpg?1581203213 | |||
* Screaming with forked tongue - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TRlmbeOvZWU/maxresdefault.jpg | |||
* screaming in profile - https://previews.123rf.com/images/danomyte/danomyte1208/danomyte120800016/14979145-angry-medusa.jpg | |||
* 3D in semi-profile - https://preview.free3d.com/img/2016/04/2279436820871644957/6bd03fnd-900.jpg | |||
* nice "hair" - https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/d1/01/70d1013eab12c5256939685920a27927.jpg | |||
* http://heraldicart.org/mace/ | * http://heraldicart.org/mace/ | ||
* See "sun in his splendor" option 5! - http://heraldicart.org/sun/ | |||
* Comets - http://heraldicart.org/comet/ | |||
==Conflict Checking== | |||
'''Sable, a gorgon's head couped facing dexter Or and on a chief Or a morning star sable distilling gouttes de sange from snakes, tongue, neck and morning star.''' LOOKS CLEAR | |||
* | *Complex Search Form - "Here are 7 matching items with a score of 3 :" out of 5 points. | ||
Hand Check | |||
* Fionnghuala an Sionnach Dubh - Sable, a Gorgon's head Or between three gouttes d'eau. | |||
** DC for chief vs gouts, DC for mace | |||
* Lucius Aurelius Valharic - Sable, a gorgon's face within a bordure embattled Or. | |||
** DC for chief vs bordure, DC for mace, DC for face (presumably afronty?) | |||
* Francesca Lucia d'Alberto dei Lorenzi - (Fieldless) A gorgon's head cabossed Or. | |||
** DC for field, DC for affronty vs profile, etc. | |||
* Praxilla Taurina - (Fieldless) On a sun azure a gorgon's head cabossed Or. | |||
** DC for field, DC for affronty vs profile, etc. | |||
* Melissa of Monster Hall - Argent, a Gorgon's head cabossed proper crined with serpents vert and a bordure embattled sable. | |||
** DC for field, DC for tincture | |||
==Individually Attested Pattern== | |||
*''Documentation for any design that violates the rules'' | |||
==Insta-Boing Checklist== | ==Insta-Boing Checklist== | ||
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* Offensive/Presumptuous | * Offensive/Presumptuous | ||
* Unity of Posture/Orientation/Arrangement | * Unity of Posture/Orientation/Arrangement | ||
[[Category:Name Consults]] | [[Category:Name Consults]] | ||
[[Category:Armory Consults]] | [[Category:Armory Consults]] |
Latest revision as of 20:27, 9 May 2022
Bureaucratic details
- Name: Primary
- Action: New
- Already Registered Name? no
- Authenticity desired? no
- Allowed Changes: Minor only
- If changes needed: Meaning (morning star), Sound ("Zahr-yah" "Gor-GOHN-ee-yah")
- Allow Holding Name? yes
- Gender of Name: Female
- Previous submission history, none
- Kingdom? East
Name Inspiration
- Zarya - Russian/Romani
- registered as Zariia Gorgonii (as masculine name)
Given Name
- Zarya - plausible feminine Slavic given name using alternate Revised English transliteration system, sn Zaria (m) -- Zakharii Zaria. 1618. [Tup 158] Vars: Zara Owanowich. 1648. [Mor 88]. Wickenden 2nd edition.
- Documentation of feminine/masculine names sharing grammatically feminine endings (all per Wickenden): Belka (squirrel), Groza (terror), Kasha (porridge), Mira (peace/earth), Nedelia (week), etc.
- Should have said: Pattern of feminine personal names using unmodified grammatically feminine Russian nouns, bracketing examples x 6...
Notes:
Zaria is the name of the pagan Russian goddess of the dawn, depicted in Russian folklore as a beautiful maiden. More importantly to the heralds (since we can't register names that were only used by gods), it is documented as a man's (!) name in Wickenden as Zaria and Zara. So convincing the Heralds to register it as a woman's name might be tricky, despite the fact it is grammatically feminine and the name of a female goddess. But I have developed a couple strategies for this problem.
Interestingly, the word zaryanka (robin) is related to zarya according to Dal'... Wickenden documents Zaranko as a men's name (diminutive of Zaran)... I should be able to document a/ia switches, plus the well-established o/a switches...
Zara meaning zarya is attested in Sreznevskii to 1097. Zarya is attested (ibid) to 1073 and includes more general meaning - glow, light, etc, in addition to utrennaya zarya (and vechernaya zarya). No zaryanka, though. Not in Wickenden, either. :-(
Byname/Surname
Gorgoniia - expected feminine form of Russian saint's name Gorgonii, sn. Gorgonii (m) -- Gorgonii, martyr. 4th Century. from Wickenden.
Documentation of feminization pattern (all per Wickenden): Artemii -> Artemiia, Evgenii -> Evgeniia, Evsignii -> Evsigniia, etc.
Russian words: | Russian names |
Горгона, Медуза | Gorgonij (martyr), |
Амазонка, валькирия | - , - |
урод, чудовище, изберг | Urod (ugly), Groza/Groznata (terror/awe), Groznye Ochi (terrifying eyes) |
воин, боец, воитель, борец (warrior, fighter) | Boi, Boika, syn Boeva, Boiak, Borets, Borim, Boris, Borislav (glorious fight), Voin, Voina (fem.!), Voislava (war's glory), Voit, Vor (slay) |
змея | Zmei, Zmeika (snake) |
булава, жезл, молот, молоток | Bulava (mace), Bulavka (little mace), Zhez (?mace?), Molot (hammer), Molotko (little hammer), Moloteia |
ударять, бить, стучать, колотить, взбивать, вколачивать, прибивать (to hit) | Bitiag, Bitmut, Bitomir (strike earth), |
грек, гречанка, греческий | Grek, Grekyna/Grekina/Grekinia (fem.) |
Combination
Need to be consistent about Revised English vs Library of Congress transliterations systems. Either:
- Zarya Gorgoniya OR
- Zaria Gorgoniia
Double given name combining Slavic name (Zarya) with Christian name (Gorgoniya) attested in SENA Appendix A.
Gorgoniya, as a saints name, was a part of the Russian naming period throughout SCA period, so no temporal incompatibility issue with Zarya dated to grey period. Per precedent: "In the case of name elements in the Dictionary [Wickenden] derived from the names of saints and martyrs, we continue to apply the rule set out in the June 2013 Cover Letter. For names listed with only a very early date (3rd century, for example) and noted to be the name of a saint or martyr, the submitter can rely on the Saint's Name Allowance found in PN1B2d1 to register that element." July 2017 Cover Letter
Blazon Information
Armory: morning star (sun on a stick - as in the weapon! duh! aka "spiked mace") but also wanting to incorporate my house symbol which is a Gorgon head but possibly in profile,
- Dark color: black - I will probably sweat to death and it will be so worth it
- Light metal: yellow/gold - if we could make the mace in the metal so it stands out that would be awesome.
- Red accents? Happy to play with red, or blue in there somewhere!
Blazon Desired:Sable, a gorgon's head couped facing dexter Or and on a chief Or a morning star sable distilling gouttes de sange from snakes, tongue, neck and morning star."
- Above returned because red drops didn't have sufficient contrast with the field.
Options:
- Get rid of the drops
- Change the drops to white "gouttes d'eau"
- Change the drops to yellow "gouttes d'or"
Clip Art
- Gunnvor gorgon head - https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/801666866275155988/811081288261697576/unknown.png?width=336&height=396
- Rough sketch - https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/801666866275155988/809918989747617812/unknown.png?width=369&height=397
- Malys's version - https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807846683060076554/808892742058770482/medusa-couped.png?width=303&height=397
- screaming - https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/024/059/396/large/chris-moffitt-medusa01.jpg?1581203213
- Screaming with forked tongue - https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TRlmbeOvZWU/maxresdefault.jpg
- screaming in profile - https://previews.123rf.com/images/danomyte/danomyte1208/danomyte120800016/14979145-angry-medusa.jpg
- 3D in semi-profile - https://preview.free3d.com/img/2016/04/2279436820871644957/6bd03fnd-900.jpg
- nice "hair" - https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/d1/01/70d1013eab12c5256939685920a27927.jpg
- http://heraldicart.org/mace/
- See "sun in his splendor" option 5! - http://heraldicart.org/sun/
- Comets - http://heraldicart.org/comet/
Conflict Checking
Sable, a gorgon's head couped facing dexter Or and on a chief Or a morning star sable distilling gouttes de sange from snakes, tongue, neck and morning star. LOOKS CLEAR
- Complex Search Form - "Here are 7 matching items with a score of 3 :" out of 5 points.
Hand Check
- Fionnghuala an Sionnach Dubh - Sable, a Gorgon's head Or between three gouttes d'eau.
- DC for chief vs gouts, DC for mace
- Lucius Aurelius Valharic - Sable, a gorgon's face within a bordure embattled Or.
- DC for chief vs bordure, DC for mace, DC for face (presumably afronty?)
- Francesca Lucia d'Alberto dei Lorenzi - (Fieldless) A gorgon's head cabossed Or.
- DC for field, DC for affronty vs profile, etc.
- Praxilla Taurina - (Fieldless) On a sun azure a gorgon's head cabossed Or.
- DC for field, DC for affronty vs profile, etc.
- Melissa of Monster Hall - Argent, a Gorgon's head cabossed proper crined with serpents vert and a bordure embattled sable.
- DC for field, DC for tincture
Individually Attested Pattern
- Documentation for any design that violates the rules
Insta-Boing Checklist
- Registered name
- Rule of Tincture
- Complexity 8 or less
- Slot-machine
- Sword-and-dagger
- Offensive/Presumptuous
- Unity of Posture/Orientation/Arrangement