Lillies War 2022 Consulting

June 17-26th 2022

Kelsey Short Youth Camp, Smithville, MO

Sefa refr

Norse name per Dorcas' sources

• Conflict check: 7 Sefa's registered, none close. 56 refr's, non close.

Per chevron inverted vert and sable, a chevron inverted indented between 3 foxes' masks Or.

• Conflict check under chevron - okay with chevron indented and chevron wavy and with same field.
• Conflict check under head-beast-dog: same field, chevrons.

Roland Kienast

German name per Bahlow. Would be nice to better pin down the byname spelling date - medieval castle in what is now Poland.

• From the Lochac LoI - 2017-04-26 - Family Search:
  • <Margredt Kienast> married <Jocki Heiniman> 15 Sep 1629, Protestantisch, Bubendorf, Basel, Switzerland; batch M92244-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FVNY-PH9)
  • <Margredt Kienast> married <Hanss Mueller> 04 Feb 1634, Protestantisch, Bubendorf, Basel, Switzerland; batch M92244-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FVNY-5H8)
  • <Margaretha Kienast>, daughter of <Stephan Kienast>, married <Hannss Lackner> 19 Apr 1637, Katholisch, Dobersberg, Niederoesterreich, Austria; Batch M92780-1 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FVFN-ZF3)
  • An earlier dated example of this spelling was not found earlier than the above per the LoAR.
• Conflict check - no conflicts under Roland, Rolant, Kienast.

Per bend azure and sable, two griffons sejent erect addorsed argent.

• Clear under griffons.

NOT Ashikaga Kein'ai [sic]

Ashikaga surname c. 1550, Kein'ai personal name, 1300s? - Japanese per Solveig. But too late of a period

• Conflict check = good with above spellings. 5 Ashikaga's. A few Keina's, no Kein'ai.

Torquil MacGruder

name

already registered!

MacGruder is a sept of Clan Gregor. The Iowa town of McGregor was founded by a member of the Gregor clan.

Scotch pine is the plant badge of the Gregor clan per Wikipedia.

Crest badge: The crest badge suitable for members of Clan Gregor to wear consists of the chief's heraldic crest and slogan. The chief's crest is: a lion's head erased Proper, crowned with an antique crown Or. The chief's slogan within the crest badge is 's rìoghail mo dhream ([stɾiː.əl mə ɣɾãũm]), which translates from Scottish Gaelic to "Royal is my race"

Sable, between two stags combatant a pale indented gules charged with a wolf's head couped sable.

Needs an IAP for color-on-color

German IAP

Pale indented x 1

1. Or, a pale indented gules, von Wisentaw (103) [but looks a bit fusilly]. https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/heraldry/siebmacher/pale-1-gu.html, https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/heraldry/siebmacher/103-vonwisentaw.jpg
2. Argent, a pale indented gules. 1500s Wappen Deutscher Geschlechter [BSB Cod.icon. 312, f42]

Stags combatant x 1

1. Argent, a stag rampant gules. f 164 Sammelbund

Wolf's head couped X 1

1. Or, a wolf's head couped vert. f 321v Manesse Codex.
2. Azure, a wolf's head couped argent, von Kötzaw (153). https://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/heraldry/siebmacher/153-vonkoetzaw.jpg

Motif of charged pale with secondaries on either side x1

1. Argent, between two herbrew letters sable and pale gules charged with a bell Or. f13r in Sammelbund.

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LC central ordinary ideally with complex line, gules on sable x 3

1. (Can't Read Name): {Blazoning only quarter 2} Per fess or and sable, in chief a demi-lion issuant from the line of division sable crowned argent and in base a chevron indented and masoned gules. http://codicon.digitale-sammlungen.de/1bsb00002481_00183.jpg
2. Red fess on black overall a decrescent and an increscent Or, f35 Sammelbund
3. 1. Red bordure on black, f92 Sammelbund
   2. Black fess on red but with HC tertiaries, 1400s Wappen Deutscher Geschlechter [BSB Cod.icon. 311, f27r]
   3. Black bend on red but with HC tertiaries, 1475-1560 Wappen Besonders von Deutschen Geschlechtern [BSB Cod. 309, f ?, p 116 in my download]
   4. Lots of red saltires on blue in Sammelbund, uncharged.

LC complex animate charges on the field (ideally as secondary charges) - gules on sable x3

1. Sable, a bull passant gules attired Or. 212r, Ortenburger Wappenbuch, German 1466-1473 [link] HiGaS
2. Per pale gules and sable, an eagle displayed counterchanged. Von Radenhausen, Siebmacher, German 1605, plate 182 [link] HiGaS
3. Per fess sable and argent, a lion gules and three billets? sable. Von Homberg, Siebmacher, German 1605, plate 167 [link] HiGaS
4. Sable, a lion rampant gules crowned Or, BSB CMG9210 f104 (or 304 or 504?) Grunenbergy Conrad Wappenbuch
   1. Black dog on red field, f2 Sammelbund

Argent, a bend gules charged in dexter with a fleur sable. 1602-1604 Wappenbuch der Konrad Grünenberg, BSB-Hss Cgm 9210, f265, p247

LC animate tertiary - Sable on gules (tertiary on central ordinary) x3

1. Argent, on a bend gules three drinking horns sable. Von Gellhorn, Siebmacher, German 1605, plate 55 [link] HiGaS
2. Argent, a bend gules charged in dexter with a fleur sable. 1602-1604 Wappenbuch der Konrad Grünenberg, BSB-Hss Cgm 9210, f265, p247
3. 1. Argent on a chief indented gules, in dexter in pale two lions passant sable. (?!?) 046r her Michiell van Watersoen, Wapenboek Beyeren, Dutch 1581 [link broken] HiGaS

"HiGaS" per Heraldry in Gules and Sable

Alternate Ideas

Per pale sable and gules, two roundels in fess counterchanged. 1475-1500 Wernigeroder Wappenbuch [BSB Cod.icon. 308 n, folio 207r]

Stag's attires - red on black and vice versa on wiki

Wolves' teeth - stylized teeth coming out of the side of the shield - http://heraldicart.org/wolves-teeth/

Quarterly gules and sable to mimic the "buffalo plaid" tartan allowed

• Quarterly indented (?) argent and gules, 1500s Wappen Deutscher Geschlechter [BSB Cod.icon. 312, f46, ]
• Above clearly indented in 1574-1637 Stamm- und Wappenbuch des Freiherrn Wolfgang Leonhard Unverzagt von Ebenfurth und Petronell - BSB Cod.icon. 326b, f 7 showing "Liechtenstein".
• Both field-primary devices: Quarterly gules and sable, and Quarterly sable and gules, appear clear of conflict ?!? (haven't checked gules/color or sable/color)
  • Gules and sable - https://oanda.sca.org//oanda_desc.cgi?p=QLY%3a%7eand%20sable%3agules
    • Gules and argent - Ulf of Sjaelland registered in February of 1996 (via Caid): Quarterly gules and argent. Only 1 DC for sable to argent. Add indented lines to clear?
    • Gules and azure - Eirik Halfdanarson registered in September of 2014 (via Ansteorra): Quarterly embattled gules and azure.
    • Gules and fur - none plain
    • Gules and multi - none plain
    • Gules and Or - none plain
    • Gules and purpure - none plain
    • GUles and vert - none plain
  • Sable and gules - https://oanda.sca.org//oanda_desc.cgi?p=QLY%3a%7eand%20gules%3asable
    • Sable and argent - Paul fitz Denis registered in February of 2014 (via Caid): Quarterly per fess indented sable and argent.
    • Sable and azure - none plain
    • Sable and fur - none plain
    • Sable and multi - none plain
    • Sable and Or - Sven Förlorad registered in April of 1998 (via Trimaris): Quarterly arrondi sable and Or.
    • Sable and purpure - Michael Patrick MacBain registered in July of 2020 (via the Outlands): Quarterly sable and purpure.
    • Sable and vert - none plain

Indented field divisions registerable with gules and sable per SENA Appendix H - http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#AppendixH

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Nut Meg Thorn

Name is already registered.

Per chevron throughout azure and Or, two oak leaves inverted argent and a tower stable and on a chief Or three acorns azure.

• Appears clear under oak leaves, and under castle.

Oleander -> Ulfkell Hrafnhauss

Oleander - period plant mentioned in Dioscorides. Not in MED. Not in Withycombe...

Pre-Christian Old Norse "dictus Oleander":

• Ulfkell personal name (Wulf Helm)
• Hrafnhauss byname (b/c raven-skull necklace)
• all per Geir Bassi

Only 3 registrations of Ulfkell. Only 5 registrations of Hrafnhauss. Appears clear.

Merlyn Mechtildis Nahtegale

mostly 14th century German

• Merlyn - Med. Germ. Names Silesia article
• Mechtildis - DMNES
• Nahtegale - Hans Bahlow.

Clear under Merlyn, Merlin, zero Mechtilidis!, Mechtild, zero Nahtegale registered.

Merlyn device - Argent, a winged lion-dragon sejant erect affronty Or winged gules tailed vert and in base a seeblatt gules.

• Sejant affronty erect okay for lions, SFPP for non-lions per January 2018 Cover Letter. https://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2018/01/18-01cl.html#5

Conflict check under Lion-dragon - see Monster-Dragon, and Monster-Sea-Lion, and Monster-Composite, and Monster-Winged

• clear under dragon (Or and vert), sea lion, monster-composite, monster-winged.

Lilian

Hummingbird device

Eibhear mac Finn

Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c1200-c1700) nominative form: Éibhear, Éimhear

• http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Eibhear.shtml

Woulfe - https://www.libraryireland.com/names/men/eibhear-ever.php

Patronymic of Fionn for byname:

• Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c1200-c1700) genitive form: Finn http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Finn.shtml

Conflict checking:

• clear Eibhear, Ever, Eber, other Finn, Fionn
• should be clear of Heber Finn: spelling of Eibhear, addition of H sound, addition of "mac"

Kaeso Allius Alexander

New Roman name

Per pall gules azure argent, a sunflower Or seeded gules maintained by a rat sable marked argent.

• Conflict checked against Beast-Mouse, Flower-Multi-petalled

Renjia [sic]

Badge (Fieldless) a caltrop gules transfixing a cloud argent (tinctures?)

• Conflict check: clearn under caltrop, mullet, and cloud with above tinctures.

Keridwen Andersdottir

Badge (Fieldless) A pawprint sable within and conjoined to 3 pine trees in pall points to center proper.

• Looks clear of:
  • Gotfridus von Schwaben registered in April of 2020 (via Calontir): (Fieldless) In pall inverted three pine trees conjoined in base vert.

Thomas Punyer [sic]

alternate Norman persona for "Taco"

Zacharias Haukyn

Zacharias - English given name dated 1585 in "Names in Chesham, 1538-1600/1" - http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/Chesham/

Haukyn - English byname dated 1297 in R&W s.n. Hawkin.

Azure ermined Or, a cross crosslet Or.

• Launcelot de Westwood registered in September of 1973: Azure, a cross botonny fitchy Or.
  • DC for ermine. SC for Ermine  ? No.
  • DC for fitchy? No. - "[T]here is not sufficient difference between a cross of Santiago and a cross fleury fitchy. We have traditionally not granted difference for the fitching of a cross." (December, 2013 LoAR)

Azure ermined Or, three crosses crosslet Or.

• Cathleen de Barre registered in December of 1996 (via the West): Gules, three crosses crosslet fitchy Or.
  • DC for ermine. Nothing for fitchy.

Azure ermined Or, three crosses crosslet 1-and-2 Or.

• Yñigo Diaz de Santiagos registered in June of 2014 (via the West): Azure, three crosses of Santiago one and two Or.
  • DC for ermine.
  • DC at least for type of cross.